Colonizing Body and Mind

Jan 25 2005  | Views 8586 |  Comments  (21)
Asura is a Sanskrit term for a material power. Asuric systems strive for increasing control over the outer and internal environments of man. For the dominated, it leads to a state of emptiness and worthlessness. When things have gone too far, there is revolt and the system collapses. Both communism and radical capitalism are asuric and oppressive systems...... Expand

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  chngIsGd posted 3 yrs ago

Dr .Kak,
I ran into this link about world without copy rights on a blog.



  radha ramaswamy posted 3 yrs ago

this reads more like a cut and paste of assorted statements than an essay. on patents and intellectual property rights the issue is more
complex than what he has written.and dont forget the fact that the
previous govt. also tried to amend the patent act to meet committments
under TRIPS.we cannot wish away material facts.the issue is how to face these challenges.we dont live in 18th century.this article lacks clear focus and the author has put some facts collected from some sources without any understanding of the issues.what should india do - should
it reject ag biotech in toto and switch over to organic or sustainable
agriculture.or should it try to restrict the IPR protection so that farmers
rights over seeds are safeguarded.or should it invest more in public sector R&D in agbiotech.or should try a combination of more than one
of the above options. the author need not have answers for all the questions he raises but unfortunately he does not even raise the right
questions.



  ShivHari posted 3 yrs ago

Mr Vyas


No sir, Democratic system is not the problem - nor it is Utopian, (please refer to my article On Republic Day of Indian Republic). Perhaps your rational would be same as of Plato.

would you care to tell me, who authorized the setup of so called democratic system in India ?

did people of india were consulted ?

or just british through their appointed so called brown sahib's like gandhi/nehru/or whoever rammed it through ?

was constitution framing commitee set up through referandom ?

or it was imposed by vim of the few chosen ones ?

the foundation of indian democracy itsellf is dictetorial.



  Subhash Kak posted 3 yrs ago

Richard Stallman of the gnu project has pointed out to me that part of the problem in the current debate related to corporate control is the confusion between the terms "intellectual property" and patents. He says:

"It has become fashionable to describe copyright, patents, and trademarks as "intellectual property". This fashion did not arise by accident--the term systematically distorts and confuses these issues, and its use was and is promoted by those who gain from this confusion. Anyone wishing to think clearly about any of these laws would do well to reject the term. "


For details, see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/not-ipr.xhtml

S.



  Subhash Kak posted 3 yrs ago

Rojamalore Rajakumari,

Education should be liberating; it should take us to the springwells of our creativity. Therefore, when I speak of "controlling" by education, I do indeed refer to societies where there is an attempt to "colonize" our inner space.

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When you made that statement, did you make it with less democratic countires in mind? If you made that statement with a country such as Singapore in mind, I couldn't agree with you more. Having grown up there for a portion of my life, I have witnessed the brain-washing that citizens living in a state of false democracy would identify as "teaching." However, if you didn't have such countires in mind, how do you define the manner in which education is, in your view, controlling the mind? Do you have any suggestions as to how to combat this mind control?
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Whereas some societies practice overt control; in others, it is more subtle. An enlightened d free society is one where the individual is encouraged to challenge the conventional wisdom of the society without fear.

S.



  Rojamalare Rajakumari posted 3 yrs ago

Dear sir:

What a well written and extremely overwhelming article! I agree with the majority of what you have expressed in this paper. I do however have one concern: You mentioned that "The mind is controlled by education." I'm not sure how much a I agree with this. I admit that to a certain degree, the mind is controlled by education. We are molded to believe what our parents and teachers tell us when they are teaching us right from wrong, etc... If we were not taught this, how would we be able to distinguish bad from good as we progress though life? Having grown up in the West, I don't believe that my mind was controlled by the education that I received at all. In fact, due to the type of education I have received in the West, I have been encouraged to ask questions, which is a clear indication of a mind that has not been convinced to accept in blind faith the "altruism" expressed by companies, such as those you have mentioned in your article.

When you made that statement, did you make it with less democratic countires in mind? If you made that statement with a country such as Singapore in mind, I couldn't agree with you more. Having grown up there for a portion of my life, I have witnessed the brain-washing that citizens living in a state of false democracy would identify as "teaching." However, if you didn't have such countires in mind, how do you define the manner in which education is, in your view, controlling the mind? Do you have any suggestions as to how to combat this mind control?

You've done a wonderful job of provoking thought through the production of this article. Thank you : ) I am certainly looking forward to reading more of your work.



  Subhash Kak posted 3 yrs ago

The manner in which devas and asuras are portrayed in comic books displays cutural prejudices. The illustrator has the challenge of how to represent divinity and materiality, and it is not clear what is the best way to do it (but this would depend on traditional way such represenations have been made so as to be "intelligble" to the reader).

S.



  Sujeev posted 3 yrs ago

I think the Pinkerton agency is the one that is entrusted with compliance regarding seed use issues in the US and Canada. While driving on some of the state highways, and local county roads, I have on occasion noticed pickup trucks with the Pinkerton logo on their sides driving slowly along the shoulder monitoring fields with well marked signs, signs that indicate what variety of seed was planted on that portion of a farm.

Also, a question for Dr. Kak. Why is that when asuras and devas are portrayed in movies or comic books (Amar Chitra Katha), the devas generally look like Europeans, while the asuras look like Africans? Been pondering this question for a while now. Have no answers.



  Keerthivasan.R posted 3 yrs ago

Another thought provoking article from Shri Subhash Kak. Thanks.



  hebbs posted 3 yrs ago

janani,
Thanks for replying.

[And in reference to the take on 'vasudhaiva kutumbakam', I still believe that it is a moola mantra - to treat the whole world as your family - an ideal that should be followed. And honestly tell me, complex politics apart, as a common person have you not experienced the global village... I have. Today, when somebody talks to me or I talk to others, we do not care nor ask about each other's religion, and when we have spoken on many topics and know each other better, we do not hesitate to freely discuss religion with an open mind to gain a better understanding of its concepts and teachings... that's the way to live... as vasudhaiva kutumbakam.]

One basic objection to the above is that, too many writers are living in la la land. they generalize their own experience in one or two cases and throw it as solution to the world!. I bet , janani , you remember sone or another who did not subscribe to your view, but would not quote it, because it goes against your goal of glorifying gandhi in this article.

Another problem, most common I may suggest, is that the moment one mentions kashmir, people come comeup with 'thats all politics I dont have anything to do with it! '. Not madam/sir , it is not politics, it is religion. One which does not believe in 'vasudhai....'. Same is true if you mention, benny hinn episode.

our sages when they formulated 'vasudhaiva....' I dont think they had known people who dont believe in them. or in otherwords, those who say 'my way or no way' did not exist. therefore our sages , not only preached and practice it also. while it is a good thing to keep in mind(not forget it ) but to ask to our people to practice it would be inviting ourselves to destruction.


as Rajiv keeps on saying on sulkeha, we lack the understanding of the adverseries!. That why the example I gave-- ghori/ghazni coming back again and again. because some guru told the king 'vasudhai...', chod tho, sala bhag jayega. They did not learn the truth for eleven(?) times. after that neither the king nor the guru existed.

Same could be true of gandhi ji. I 've immense respect fot the man. Even he would have changed his views if he lived today. dont you think? if did not people would have sopped believing him or they would not have exisited. really speaking 'selfsufficiency'. is it really possible now a days, without really turning the clock back few hundred years ?

comin back to 'vasudhai...'. our sages also said. fighting for dharma is every ones duty, ' dharmo rakshati rakshitah' why dont we quote it and say we have to protect our kashmiri brothers??

thanks janani for responding





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